Upgraded from DT1770 to T5 Gen3. Happy! Like night and day! These drivers are amazing, with EQ you can do kind of everything. Note, if standart softskin pads will be replaced to velour (as I did, took them from DT1770) - low end will be rolled off. But again, as drivers are very capable, just with EQ we can "fix" this. Im using ADI-2 DAC FS and LG V60. On both need to add from 5 to 7 dB on low end.
+1 on the EQ.
With only minor tweaks...these issues being mentioned can be cleared up with ease, leaving a super resolving headphones with impact and great soundstage.
I used to think using EQ was besides the point of getting high end gear....but there is no perfect headphone for me, only close enough. EQ fixes that.
Upgraded from DT1770 to T5 Gen3. Happy! Like night and day! These drivers are amazing, with EQ you can do kind of everything. Note, if standart softskin pads will be replaced to velour (as I did, took them from DT1770) - low end will be rolled off. But again, as drivers are very capable, just with EQ we can "fix" this. Im using ADI-2 DAC FS and LG V60. On both need to add from 5 to 7 dB on low end.
The T5.3 are quite horrible headphones tbh. I would rather go with the Dan Clark Aeon if you want closed backs or tried to get the Focal Radiance from sale/open box.
Dont agree, i compared Aeon 2 Closed and T5.3 side by side a couple of weeks before selling A2C. Always ended up with T5.3 when i just wanted to listen to music. Sure, A2C is more neutral, got more speed and separation but music just sounds so much more pleasing, flowy and organic in T5.3. I really think the details are there but without peaky planar treble. Nowdays i run them balanced in ”presense” mode on iFi Gryphon wich really make the mids and especially female voices sound even better and not muddy at all. I thing ZMFs Beyer pads make the stadge even wider and deeper too. T5.3 is more feeling than analytic. Great closed back IMO.
Dont agree, i compared Aeon 2 Closed and T5.3 side by side a couple of weeks before selling A2C. Always ended up with T5.3 when i just wanted to listen to music. Sure, A2C is more neutral, got more speed and separation but music just sounds so much more pleasing, flowy and organic in T5.3. I really think the details are there but without peaky planar treble. Nowdays i run them balanced in ”presense” mode on iFi Gryphon wich really make the mids and especially female voices sound even better and not muddy at all. I thing ZMFs Beyer pads make the stadge even wider and deeper too. T5.3 is more feeling than analytic. Great closed back IMO.
Dont agree, i compared Aeon 2 Closed and T5.3 side by side a couple of weeks before selling A2C. Always ended up with T5.3 when i just wanted to listen to music. Sure, A2C is more neutral, got more speed and separation but music just sounds so much more pleasing, flowy and organic in T5.3. I really think the details are there but without peaky planar treble. Nowdays i run them balanced in ”presense” mode on iFi Gryphon wich really make the mids and especially female voices sound even better and not muddy at all. I thing ZMFs Beyer pads make the stadge even wider and deeper too. T5.3 is more feeling than analytic. Great closed back IMO.
How is the comfort on the ZMF beyer pads? My only problem with Beyer's is the clamp force is a bit strong and they get a bit hot on my ears. Ideally I'd want them to be more comfortable. Would be nice to keep very similar sound profile but with better comfort....
I found that Dekoni pads didn't really do it since they are very thick and actually added to the clamp force.
How is the comfort on the ZMF beyer pads? My only problem with Beyer's is the clamp force is a bit strong and they get a bit hot on my ears. Ideally I'd want them to be more comfortable. Would be nice to keep very similar sound profile but with better comfort....
I found that Dekoni pads didn't really do it since they are very thick and actually added to the clamp force.
You know you can try to bend the headband a little to get rid of some of the clamp force? I think ZMF pads are a little bit softer in both foam and leather. And they are also a little bit wider inside with thinner walls. My opinion is that they sound better than Dekoni (got all Dekonis for Beyer).
You know you can try to bend the headband a little to get rid of some of the clamp force? I think ZMF pads are a little bit softer in both foam and leather. And they are also a little bit wider inside with thinner walls. My opinion is that they sound better than Dekoni (got all Dekonis for Beyer).
Thanks for the input! I've tried bending them a bit...so the clamp is better than stock, but I suppose the stock pads are just not ideal for long listening sessions. Maybe unfair to compare them to the Dan Clark Aeon's I had, with super soft pads which were supremely comfortable and could be worn forever.
I will probably order a set of the ZMF pads....but am a bit hesitant because the change in sound since I currently have them EQ'd just how I like them (modified Oratory 1990 settings) to clear up low-mid bloom.
I also have the Dekoni's but they were just too thick and the foam too stiff for my taste/comfort.
The T5 models were always easy to drive, so I don't think the Qudelix would have a problem there. Personally I did not like the rather lean sound of the 5K, but many do like it quite a bit, so that may be more a matter of taste. And maybe even an advantage with the T5.3, which is said to be on the warm side anyway.
Generally I think balanced is not worth the effort except for really power-hungry models (many planars are in this category). Depending on the amp implementation the single ended version might be implemented less well of course, that depends on the specific model and is not an inherent problem with single ended amps. Take e.g. Hugo: excellent single ended output.
I do have an original Beyerdynamic 2.5mm symmetric cable for T1/T5 somewhere in my archive. Let me know if you want to give it a try.
I can highly recommend replacing original pads with Dekoni Choice Suede - these are closest to the original tuning, but much more comfortable and seal surprisingly well.
Because of Black Friday sales, I will buy a FAW Noir Hybrid for my T5.3. However, the page choice is for T5p Gen 2 available. I'm not sure whether the connectors of both models are same. Please confirm. Thank you in advance.
Because of Black Friday sales, I will buy a FAW Noir Hybrid for my T5.3. However, the page choice is for T5p Gen 2 available. I'm not sure whether the connectors of both models are same. Please confirm. Thank you in advance.
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