Stax SR-X9000
May 9, 2024 at 10:44 PM Post #3,031 of 3,045
It definitely would be A LOT easier to ship out T8000 boxes than building Blue Hawaii SE's! We do have T8000's in stock right now too!
I have wondered if you'd rather sell a Stax amp or one of your own designs... In the audio sense, they're competing products, but for you, considering that the sale prices are relatively comparable, the BHSE would require a lot more time and effort per unit sold.
 
May 10, 2024 at 1:35 AM Post #3,032 of 3,045
Based of your taste in bassy hifiman it might just be the perfect estat for you.

As for the amp if you are using the 700S I believe that is basically a newer version of the 717, my Blue Hawaii gets much louder and even the "Stax farts" sound different. The Blue Hawaii is an improvement for sure, but the law of diminishing returns and all.
I want to audition the CRBN first like I said . I'm based in London ,and there is an authorised dealer who has most of TOTL on display.
That will be also my chance to audition also the Shangri-la SR.
 
May 12, 2024 at 1:59 PM Post #3,033 of 3,045
Has the X9000 gone through any revisions or are they the same as in 2021?
 
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May 12, 2024 at 2:02 PM Post #3,034 of 3,045
Has the X9000 gone through any revisions or are they the same as in 2001?
You seem to confuse them with another model. They were released 2021 and as far as I can tell, didn't receive any major revision
 
May 12, 2024 at 2:43 PM Post #3,035 of 3,045
You seem to confuse them with another model.

No I wasn't confused with another model, I haven't followed news related to the X9000 since release. I thought they might have a silent revision.
 
May 12, 2024 at 2:49 PM Post #3,037 of 3,045
May 14, 2024 at 5:12 PM Post #3,038 of 3,045
Regarding the Susvara vs X9000 commentary earlier, I just did a sweep on both with my MiniDSP EARS. More bass on X9000 everywhere above 35Hz.
So really only the lowest of bass is lacking on X9000.

Oh and ignore the spike around 4-5k, that's the ear gain from the rubber ear. I'm just using a raw mic calibration that doesn't compensate for that.
 

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May 14, 2024 at 5:15 PM Post #3,039 of 3,045
Regarding the Susvara vs X9000 commentary earlier, I just did a sweep on both with my MiniDSP EARS. More bass on X9000 everywhere above 35Hz.
So really only the lowest of bass is lacking on X9000.

Oh and ignore the spike around 4-5k, that's the ear gain from the rubber ear. I'm just using a raw mic calibration that doesn't compensate for that.
Surprisingly see how flat sus is on bass. What amp are you using for x9000 in this test? Thanks!
 
May 14, 2024 at 5:21 PM Post #3,040 of 3,045
Surprisingly see how flat sus is on bass. What amp are you using for x9000 in this test? Thanks!
Novem for X9000. Bliss for Susvara.
 
May 14, 2024 at 6:19 PM Post #3,041 of 3,045
Regarding the Susvara vs X9000 commentary earlier, I just did a sweep on both with my MiniDSP EARS. More bass on X9000 everywhere above 35Hz.
So really only the lowest of bass is lacking on X9000.
Thanks for generating and posting that. The resonance peak (and associated roll-offs) would seem to explain why *I* found the X9000 bass to sound much more realistic and satisfying on some tracks versus others. Overall, I find Susvara's bass more accurate, consistent, and subjectively superior. As always, one listener's opinion...
 
May 14, 2024 at 6:38 PM Post #3,042 of 3,045
Thanks for generating and posting that. The resonance peak (and associated roll-offs) would seem to explain why *I* found the X9000 bass to sound much more realistic and satisfying on some tracks versus others. Overall, I find Susvara's bass more accurate, consistent, and subjectively superior. As always, one listener's opinion...
No prob. When you say resonance peak, you mean the one at 50Hz?
Also I think X9000 sounds great with just a simple bass shelf. Like 6dB or so tapering off to nothing by 50Hz. Consider giving that a try if you still have an X9000 on hand.

Btw, I bought these so I can do some on head measurements:
https://soundprofessionals.com/product/MS-TFB-2/
 
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May 14, 2024 at 6:52 PM Post #3,043 of 3,045
No prob. When you say resonance peak, you mean the one at 50Hz?
Also I think X9000 sounds great with just a simple bass shelf. Like 6dB or so tapering off to nothing by 50Hz. Consider giving that a try if you still have an X9000 on hand.

Btw, I bought these so I can do some on head measurements:
https://soundprofessionals.com/product/MS-TFB-2/
Yes, I meant the peak at 50 Hz. I no longer own my X9000, but I did usually apply a 2-3 dB bass shelf below 100 Hz, as I routinely do with any estat. Had I done some research into the X9000's actual bass response, I clearly could have tailored a much more effective EQ, but bass wasn't the only issue I had with it in the end. All this said, I still consider it a superb headphone overall, but one that likely requires a dedicated high-end amp (instead of my iESL) to maximize its potential. I decided not to travel that path in the near term, and now that Immanis is on the scene, I may never do so.
 
May 14, 2024 at 11:14 PM Post #3,044 of 3,045
Regarding the Susvara vs X9000 commentary earlier, I just did a sweep on both with my MiniDSP EARS. More bass on X9000 everywhere above 35Hz.
So really only the lowest of bass is lacking on X9000.
Great job! Surprised to see MiniDSP EARS can get such smooth response, the accuracy is usually not good for measuring headphone on low-cost artificial ear.
Be sure remove the silicone hook of MS-TFB-2 it will cause cancellation around 8KHz (~10dB dip).
 
May 15, 2024 at 12:48 AM Post #3,045 of 3,045
Great job! Surprised to see MiniDSP EARS can get such smooth response, the accuracy is usually not good for measuring headphone on low-cost artificial ear.
Be sure remove the silicone hook of MS-TFB-2 it will cause cancellation around 8KHz (~10dB dip).
Awesome, thanks. Didn't know that. Will post my results here when I get them.
 

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